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Louis Robichaud
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.17 21:34:00 -
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I would like to take a moment to thank Gevlon Goblin for making my job as a recruiter even easier than before: now to the numerous advantages to joining RvB (fast action pvp, low drama, close to Jita, great community etc) I get to add "the opportunity to blow up Gevlon's ship!" I am sure there are at least a few miners who still feel you owe them a barge or two... |
Louis Robichaud
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.18 00:22:00 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:Louis Robichaud wrote:I would like to take a moment to thank Gevlon Goblin for making my job as a recruiter even easier than before: now to the numerous advantages to joining RvB (fast action pvp, low drama, close to Jita, great community etc) I get to add "the opportunity to blow up Gevlon's ship!" I am sure there are at least a few miners who still feel you owe them a barge or two... Careful with that recruitment slogan! How many of your members are N3 alts? What happens if N3 recognizes RvB as a CFC member and bans its own members from having alts in RvB? How many people would you lose overnight? Remember, they have full APIs for their members, so they can enforce it.
N3 has more than enough RvB members (as most null sec alliance do I imagine) to have a pretty good idea of who and what RvB is about. We are not concerned.
How many miners did you blow up again? |
Louis Robichaud
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.18 07:22:00 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:Xolve wrote: I don't think he can afford our attention.
I already got your attention, hence the posting. Admit it, you are just afraid that Goons will be defeated by us and not the famous PL.
I think that's the silliest thing I've ever seen you write, and' that's saying a lot... |
Louis Robichaud
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.18 08:47:00 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:Louis Robichaud wrote: Your plan is doomed, because you are offering *nothing* to the lemmings. They won't learn to PvP, they will just get owned in fights or will have to retreat. They won't have fun... they might have a vague feeling of "grr-goons!!" but that won't last long as no successes are achieved. Marmite will keep doing what Marmite does, which *isn't* taking POCOs you will note, and I sincerely doubt they will take the time to teach those lemmings.
If that is the case, why the attention? Why did RvB wardec? Why 23 pages with CSMs? I mean EVE is full of doomed corps and alliances (usually with the line "friendly helpful team looking for people we mine, mission and learn PvP together). Do they all get the same attention? What makes Lemmings special then? What makes Lemmings special to you making you post in this thread?
Personally, I felt that your grandiose "RvB failure" blog entry deserved some attention. And if a single player decides to join us after reading my post instead of this crazy lemming idea, then I've done my job.
(although, I'll grant you this - I rather someone *try* PvP and join the lemming than remain a miner forever!)
In general, I think people are drawn to this thread as they are drawn to a trainwreck. Some people doubtlessly feel that some of your notions are extremely entertaining. Like you declaring PL was afraid you were going to defeat the Goons instead of them... I mean wow, just wow. You aren't getting attention because you are the fearsome tiger stalking the streets. Rather people are saying "wow, look at that pink donkey!"
I'll grant it's possible that you are trolling too and don't actually mean it, or are trying to weave propaganda. Unfortunately for you, you're doing it so poorly it's comedic.
In a way I feel sorry for you Gevlon. You clearly are very intelligent, and sometimes very insightful... yet you lack understanding of EVE (and I suspect, human nature) in a fundamental, profound way. Reading your blogs and your posts and your plans is like seeing a cook select the finest ingredient for a stew, along with a few surprisingly original ones... and then instead of using red wine or beer as a base, you use sewage water, ruining everything. Our job as readers is picking out those great ingredient ideas and avoiding the stew.
Where are the concrete results showing you're making progress? |
Louis Robichaud
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.19 04:04:00 -
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Usman Bello wrote:Khador Vess wrote:Gevlon Goblin wrote: If that is the case, why the attention? Why did RvB wardec?
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What makes Lemmings special to you making you post in this thread?
RvB is really simple to understand... we blow **** up... we LIKE to blow **** up.... no we LOVE to blow **** up. That is mostly each other but we're equally as happy to donate hot rounds of phased plasma to people like you and your new bunch of lemmings. If we get a free chance to blow up lots of muppets all in one go that that to us is christmas come again. We've just made your permanent hi-sec war against the goons a little bit more interesting... Yeah the good fights.. yet in reality you act like schoolyard bullies. Goon henchman that is what you are, fighting so that your new goon masters can continue to line their pockets with POCO money.
*All* the funds collected from RvB Pocos go back to RvB to fund our fun activities. Our doors are wide open. Our mission is to have fun, and perhaps cure carebearism while doing so. Learning basic (or advanced!) PvP and a more healthy attitude about risk (because every ship an RvB player owns will blow up sooner rather than later) does every EVE player good.
I don't think that fits the notion of "bullies" |
Louis Robichaud
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.19 06:31:00 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:I'd like to express my utter disappointment on the outrageous disloyalty and unhonorable behavior of RvB. They were lolling in highsec when their brothers and male-sisters were losing half trillion ISK in dreadnoughts in HED-GP.
Hmmm, so much about that notion of RvB being pets hmm? Our agreements covers high sec POCOs. No help was expected from us for nul sec sov warfare, as it should be. |
Louis Robichaud
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.20 00:53:00 -
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Xolve wrote:Gevlon Goblin wrote:I would also wish to lend my support against the outrageous trolling of PL posters who claim that CFC was obliterated because they were cowards to field supers and titans. The truth is that they simply can't afford such things, since they are poor as dirt (see also: bombless bombers), but even if they had, the betrayal of RvB sealed their fate. Had the RvB ganked fleet make that one jump from highsec to HED, the battle would have been a titan graveyard for PL-N3. Of course PL-N3 have more than 80 members, so their caution is - though unhonorable - understandable. You really can't be that stupid. Nobody can be this stupid. Sending 1000+ subcaps in before trying to (all at once mind you) jump in 600 Dreads into a already loaded capital superior force is more than 'pretty risky' at best, if you actually knew literally a single thing about PvP and looked at their fits, it was quite obvious why they managed to kill little more than a small assortment of dreads and carriers.
Remember, he said that PL was afraid of him because he might defeat CFC before you do! I *literally* face-palmed when I read that.
But Gevlon isn't stupid - he's foolish. His lack of understanding of how most people think and operate lead him astray, again and again. In this case, either thinking the nonsense he's posting, or thinking the nonsense he's posting *is* nonsense but will be good propaganda (either notion is silly) . And that's why it's so hard for him to fathom that he could be wrong - his cleverness blinds him to his weaknesses.
All that being said though, if this nonsense got a few carebears to dare to fight and learn a bit, then it's not all bad. |
Louis Robichaud
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.20 14:27:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:Northern Misfit wrote:We did an event today, 10 noobs joined 2 vets and in no less than 30 minutes had scouted out my Rattlesnake and killed it. All it really takes is an FC who can get their pilots to understand the dscan, warp to, tackle, kill concept. The fleet was rewarded with a payout from my bounty, and a little bling on their killboard, the individual pilots were rewarded with the understanding that a small fleet that's working together can do big things!
Imagine if he undocked and led his merry band of carebears on an adventure, they would learn something and have fun all at the same time. I think there would be lots of lessons about what not to do.
Learning what doesn't work is still learning ;)
Joan Greywind wrote:Arkady Romanov wrote:Northern Misfit wrote:We did an event today, 10 noobs joined 2 vets and in no less than 30 minutes had scouted out my Rattlesnake and killed it. All it really takes is an FC who can get their pilots to understand the dscan, warp to, tackle, kill concept. The fleet was rewarded with a payout from my bounty, and a little bling on their killboard, the individual pilots were rewarded with the understanding that a small fleet that's working together can do big things!
Imagine if he undocked and led his merry band of carebears on an adventure, they would learn something and have fun all at the same time. What have you done!? What about your precious killboard effiency!? To hell with the killboard efficiency, what about opportunity cost?! If those 12 were minning ice they could have gotten twice the price of that rattlesnake in an hour. Scrubs.
LOL
In fact, Gevlon, that mad genius, is winning far more than we though. Imagine the time we wasted posting here, we could have been missioning! He's done trillions of damage by now! :O |
Louis Robichaud
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.20 23:36:00 -
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I'm looking forward to it - it's not impossible that Gevlon's rodents *did* catch something good. So either I'll laugh at someone's misfortune and idiocy, or I'll laugh at Gevlon's idea of what constitutes a grand announcement. it's win-win!
We had fun taking a short break from our forever war to form purple and smash a lemming camping fleet earlier today in Jita. Thank you for the content :P |
Louis Robichaud
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.21 18:46:00 -
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Usman Bello wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:They have no financial gain, just a pre-agreed pact. Who knows, I wouldn't be too surprised if the RvB directors get a little extra for sending their grunts to get shoot by the Lemmings to further goon interests.
I admit it, it's true, it's all true!!! Mittens himself drove to my house and bought me off! He was so generous I can now afford to t2 fit my tormentor! Oh, filthy lucre, the humanity! |
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Louis Robichaud
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.22 02:18:00 -
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Genseric Tollaris wrote:At this point it seems appropriate to accuse Gevlon of being a goon sockpuppet sent by mittens himself to test the loyalty of RvB by creating a fake enemy to threaten the poco's and draw out the marmites so they can be finally defeated and purged from high sec by framing them for the lag fest in HED so spacemonkeys alliance can finally fly their haulers in high sec free of molestation. A brilliant and cunning plan.
Pffff. Gevlon is *far* more clever than that. We all know he's filthy rich. (And by this I mean he's rich AND he's filthy. I mean come on, he's a goblin, goblins eat road-kill). Gevlon has spent the last 2 months stocking up on valuable PI commodities. He knew he didn't have an alliance backing him up, but he didn't need one - all he had to do was channel the grr-goon energies of highsec to form a warmachine that would do his every bidding! Now that the POCOs are being exploded left and right, PI production is hugely disrupted and prices have spiked.
This is just another market manipulation. With such a foolproof plan, he's laughing all the way to the bank! And no, he won't buy soap. |
Louis Robichaud
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.23 00:13:00 -
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Khador Vess wrote:Telemachus Rheade wrote:Soooo, what must I do to get this Gevlon Goblin guy to pay Marmite to permadec RvB? I mean, clearly he's mad about RvB assisting goons cause of LOLz, pets, and/or conspiracy. Let's put some isk towards that endeavour! However, I guess Marmites would decline cause, well, killboards are too precious right? marmite are more interested in forum PvP it seems.
It's the precious, precious metagame! I troll harder than them, I win!!!11! That's how Mittens became so powerful right? |
Louis Robichaud
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.23 05:27:00 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:Del DelVechio wrote: I want him to put some of his "riches" on the line first. But so far he is ignoring the offer. Talk is cheap.
Yes, I totally want to give an "x up people for fleet, I'll split the winnings with you" money.
I don't think you understood his bet...
edit: In fact, taking his bet *may* be your best chance at "winning". You are spending a very considerable sum to get marmite on your side, obviously this is worth spending money on. You take the bet, have RvB leaves the field, giving you a chance to destroy all the goons POCOs. Best case scenario you do destroy them, you *win* the bet and you score a victory vs the Goons. Worse case scenario... well you get to see if this is possible or not see? You lost the bet but now you can more on to something else.
(I'm hoping *I* understood the proposed bet, but I'm fairly confident I have) |
Louis Robichaud
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.23 14:02:00 -
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Telemachus Rheade wrote:Gevlon Goblin wrote:Louis Robichaud wrote: You take the bet, have RvB leaves the field, giving you a chance to destroy all the goons POCOs.
But Goons show up to get paid from the bet. Don't even try to claim that money doesn't flow between these entities. So no thanks, I won't pay Goons to defend their POCOs. WOAH Goons pay RvB now?! Please send all future Goons > RvB payments to TELEMACHUS RHEADE, Mr. Mittens. I am the RvB Mining Director, and mining for isk is listed in my duties. I will make sure the isk gets to where it needs to go, promise! (Please disregard my request if Gevlon Goblin is making things up, as usual)
Of course Mittens is paying us, how else could I possibly afford a T2 fit tormentor?
Seriously Gevlon, *if* POCOs are important to the goons, they won't need RvB money to motivate them to defend them... This doesn't make any sense.
And for the record, and because Gevlon may have a hard time picking up sarcasm, there is no money flow between the goons and us. |
Louis Robichaud
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.23 22:16:00 -
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If Gevlon was smart he would take the bet, even if he expects to lose, to give him and his lemmings a chance of blowing up at least one poco.... |
Louis Robichaud
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.24 21:36:00 -
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Usman Bello wrote:Professor Clio wrote:Usman Bello wrote:The recent 700m pod kill made me laugh. Has the poor chap already handed over the same amount in fines to his RvB leadership? It would be quite a shame, if he would lose his privilege to explode so that goonies can continue to line their pockets. If it was in jita, and didn't happen as part of a wartarget fleet he will need to, yes. I call it a tax on the stupid and the illiterate. It quite clearly says in our welcome mail, corp bulletins, all our in game channels' MOTDs, and forums that no one should go to jita and feed the campers. Its a very effective rule. We've probably lost a few people because of it but we've lost a lot fewer than if the never ending stream of facepalming pod losses we used to incur before it was still going on. Edit: credit where it is due, the jita campers are very good at killing expensive pods. Keeping people from going to jita (there's no need to since you can remote buy and remote courrier contract straight from the RvB HQs without even undocking) is the most effective way we have to fight back against the station huggers, it sounds cold but its simple calculations really. Some people take it as a lesson in eve and become better RvBers for it. The ones that leave in a rage because of it, well... good riddence. Personally I find it overly harsh. Getting podded and losing so dearly should teach them enough already. But if you think it is in an effective way to manipulate killboards in your favor, who am I to question this? In the end if he wants to risk such amounts on implants and most likely has the ISKs to afford it, it's his own cup of tea. Calling your own pilots stupid and illiterate makes you sound like a goon meanie btw. I would rather hear you pledge to avenge his death!
We already did. A marmite neutral booster, ship+pod almost a bil, and about 50 gallons of tears on top of it. |
Louis Robichaud
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.28 13:50:00 -
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Hell, even some of RvB was over there whoring on titan killmails! :D Still no POCOs attacked (that I know of).
I read Gevlon's post. I think he's right that RvB has to remain neutral. But what he fails to realize is that the RvBee agreement barely threatens this neutrality, and that on a strategic scale those high sec POCOs have almost no influence whatsoever. So the N3 intervention he dreams about won't happen...
... that being said, after yesterday's astounding battle, maybe we are *all* going to be goon pets soon |
Louis Robichaud
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.28 16:55:00 -
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Xolve wrote:Louis Robichaud wrote:... that being said, after yesterday's astounding battle, maybe we are *all* going to be goon pets soon Doubtful, game would be too boring then. Surely you don't want this level of tryhard confined to lowsec/highsec wars and general tomfoolery.
I seriously believe that *any * group becoming dominant would be bad for the game, but this discussion is hard to have with paranoid grrr goons conspiracists and goons professional trolls making sure that it turns daft in short order.... |
Louis Robichaud
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.28 16:57:00 -
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Kirin Shiyurida wrote:Louis Robichaud wrote:... that being said, after yesterday's astounding battle, maybe we are *all* going to be goon pets soon Wise words Louis, might be a good time to revaluate one's allegiance.
I'm very happy being in RvB, best alliance I have ever been into :) |
Louis Robichaud
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.29 00:03:00 -
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General Lemming wrote:Del DelVechio wrote:General Lemming wrote:Shouldn't you delete pods from the kill board ? Maybe spend more time on your losses then stupid trolls.... RvB is making Goonies look smart You have us confused with Marmites, we don't delete anything from our KBs..... tell that to the guys chatting about it in the shoutbox and the sql error you get while clicking on pods.
Yes, ALL computer glitches are due to malfeasance and dark conspiracies, ALL OF THEM
This is coming from the people who insist we are Goon pets yet are bloated on their RMT money at the same time.... |
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Louis Robichaud
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.29 22:52:00 -
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I too share Lucas ' confusion as to what the goal is.
I will remind the readers that the best way to fight RvB is to join RvB. |
Louis Robichaud
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.04 05:06:00 -
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Well... one has to admit that content *is* being generated, both in game and in metagame. Admittedly it's silly content, but it's still content. And because propaganda and delusions trumps reality, everyone is winning!
... although seriously, stop flying dual tanked navy apocs with no rigs, medium guns and 1mn propmods. That made my eyes bleed and that's going too far! It's just a game people. |
Louis Robichaud
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.08 08:05:00 -
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Gevlon, are you even vaguely in control of this project anymore?
A few days ago, you endorsed Sugar Kyle for CSM 9 (incidentally, I happen to agree with you, I think she would be a fine CSM candidate*).
A day or two after you've posted this, the Lemmings declare war on Sugar Kyle's corp... You've claimed this is was a mistake, some kind of coincidence, but really?!? What are the chances of that?!?
While it's not impossible it was just a coincidence, I think it's *far* more likely that it's sabotage. The goons are really good at this kind of stuff. I would be *astounded* if they don't have several skilled spies in the lemmings already. Heck, even Lucas put an alt in there and he's no spymaster (or is he?).
RvB can't be bothered with all this spying stuff** , but if you are serious about fighting Goons, you have to be serious about intelligence... because otherwise, this kind of sabotage will just get worse and worse. Do you know how to stop it?
good luck...
*vote Mangala! ** the author of this post acknowledges that the above statement regarding RvB spying activities may only be attempts at misdirection, and that the truth of the matter cannot be determined by the content of this post. The author apologizes for this unfortunate situation. *** the author has occasional difficulties when it comes to counting past 2. |
Louis Robichaud
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.08 16:23:00 -
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Xaerael Endiel wrote:Josh Minar wrote:Xaerael Endiel wrote: I'm not trolling. Gevlon is spending far too much time trying to prove black is white, up is down, and the sky isn't blue. It's sad to see someone spiral down this path, but I've seen it in every MMO I've ever played.
Not trolling? Check your corp name to the left (under your avatar) before you pretend to some credibility. Goons have forever been notorious for obsessing on playerbase harassment. And now trying to give lessons on not obsessing? The irony. :) Isn't that stereotyping? It's people like you who say "X religion" are all terrorists, or "Y race" are all thieves. A certain leader during world war 2 thought that way, and look where it got him.
GODWIN!
Although this thread has ceased having any value many pages ago, you've just made it official. Kinda disappointed in you really. |
Louis Robichaud
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.08 20:41:00 -
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This debate can't make any sort of sense if we don't even agree on what a carebear is!
Gevlon: A carebear is someone who's unwilling to fight. If a nullsec member spends 95% of his time ratting and mining, but when the alliance needs warships he jumps into a BC (or even a frigate!) to help... he's not a carebear. He may be a PvE mostly player, but he's willing to fight to help defend his alliance's territory - or attack the alliance's enemies. He's useful. |
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